“Knuckle” gouge...
Quote from Matthew Mizner on December 12, 2017, 8:53 amDoes anyone know of a place that sells knuckle gouges? They have also been known as a tracery gouge. I spent a few hours on the internet and can’t find a current tool maker that stocks them. Any info would be appreciated!
Does anyone know of a place that sells knuckle gouges? They have also been known as a tracery gouge. I spent a few hours on the internet and can’t find a current tool maker that stocks them. Any info would be appreciated!
Quote from Michael Duncan on December 12, 2017, 11:15 amTracery gouge = Knuckle gouge = Spoon gouge, the Swiss Pfeil's have the most curve (too much almost) but would be good for tracery, For everything else, flatter spoons, just got e-mail from Mary yesterday asking preferance on spoons, she uses Dastra and antique Addis. I'm exploring the same ?, have two projects to do (Roubo bookstand with acanthus leaves, chisel tool box with relief carvings) #3 to another Roubo bookstand with Gothic Tracery. I only have one spoon, a Pfeil #8 - 10mm in palm. looking to buy spoons myself, please post what you find!
Tracery gouge = Knuckle gouge = Spoon gouge, the Swiss Pfeil's have the most curve (too much almost) but would be good for tracery, For everything else, flatter spoons, just got e-mail from Mary yesterday asking preferance on spoons, she uses Dastra and antique Addis. I'm exploring the same ?, have two projects to do (Roubo bookstand with acanthus leaves, chisel tool box with relief carvings) #3 to another Roubo bookstand with Gothic Tracery. I only have one spoon, a Pfeil #8 - 10mm in palm. looking to buy spoons myself, please post what you find!
Quote from Matthew Mizner on December 12, 2017, 12:06 pmMichael, I haven’t tried other brands of spoon gouges, as I only own Pfeil...good to know they have the most curve to them. My spoons work 99% of the time, but there’s always one spot that leaves me contorting myself and my tools trying to get an even corner on tracery.
I shall keep looking and hopefully someone else here has a good direction!
Michael, I haven’t tried other brands of spoon gouges, as I only own Pfeil...good to know they have the most curve to them. My spoons work 99% of the time, but there’s always one spot that leaves me contorting myself and my tools trying to get an even corner on tracery.
I shall keep looking and hopefully someone else here has a good direction!
Quote from Michael Duncan on December 12, 2017, 8:24 pmI wonder if you could grind the wings on a spoon to give more clearance, similar to sloping back V tools. It would be a dedicated tracery corner tool. I assume your using #8 sweeps or something close. If you do decide to try that, grind VERY SLOW and cool often so as to not draw out the temper.
I wonder if you could grind the wings on a spoon to give more clearance, similar to sloping back V tools. It would be a dedicated tracery corner tool. I assume your using #8 sweeps or something close. If you do decide to try that, grind VERY SLOW and cool often so as to not draw out the temper.
Quote from Matthew Mizner on December 12, 2017, 10:08 pmI do use #8, and I’ve thought of making a tool specifically for this if I can’t find one ready-made.
I do use #8, and I’ve thought of making a tool specifically for this if I can’t find one ready-made.
Quote from Michael Duncan on December 13, 2017, 2:09 amGood luck and thanks for the heads up on the difficulty in reaching corners on tracery. I'll know to watch for it. If you do reshape a spoon please let me know how it works.
Good luck and thanks for the heads up on the difficulty in reaching corners on tracery. I'll know to watch for it. If you do reshape a spoon please let me know how it works.
Quote from MaryMay on December 14, 2017, 9:56 pmI think you will have the best luck finding these shapes in antique tools. They have been tried and proven, and often worn to the extent that you will need (rounded corners you were describing). Try ebay, tool auctions, antique tool collectors meetings, antique tool store above The Woodwright's School (Roy Underhill's school in Pittsboro, NC). These antique tools often have a very aggressive curve that is difficult to find in the newer ones.
I think you will have the best luck finding these shapes in antique tools. They have been tried and proven, and often worn to the extent that you will need (rounded corners you were describing). Try ebay, tool auctions, antique tool collectors meetings, antique tool store above The Woodwright's School (Roy Underhill's school in Pittsboro, NC). These antique tools often have a very aggressive curve that is difficult to find in the newer ones.
Quote from Deleted user on December 30, 2017, 2:37 pmMatthew, without more information or picture, I'm not sure what you are looking for. Would this be it? https://www.thewoodworks.com.au/shop/hand-tools/spoon-gouges/gouge-spoon-with-cranked-handle-701537-detail
Iain
Matthew, without more information or picture, I'm not sure what you are looking for. Would this be it? https://www.thewoodworks.com.au/shop/hand-tools/spoon-gouges/gouge-spoon-with-cranked-handle-701537-detail
Iain
Quote from Matthew Mizner on December 31, 2017, 6:59 pmIan...that’s a pretty interesting looking tool, but pretty close to the deep spoon that I’m looking for.
Mary, I searched around and eventually found an Addis that was exactly what I was looking for on Jim Bode’s site. Unfortunately he had sold it, so I told him to shoot me an email if he comes across one again. So far I’ve only seen that tool made by Addis. I guess it’s so rare that I can probably get by without it!
Ian...that’s a pretty interesting looking tool, but pretty close to the deep spoon that I’m looking for.
Mary, I searched around and eventually found an Addis that was exactly what I was looking for on Jim Bode’s site. Unfortunately he had sold it, so I told him to shoot me an email if he comes across one again. So far I’ve only seen that tool made by Addis. I guess it’s so rare that I can probably get by without it!